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Dave 2:34 pm on May 10, 2010
Hi -
I enjoyed the article about Vitamin D. QUESTION: do these warnings apply only to the synthetic form (D2), or to what I understand is the “natural” form of Vitamin D – D3 – as well?
glenn parnham 2:54 pm on May 10, 2010
just a couple of questions about your vit d article when you describe synthetic vit d are you talking about d2 d3 or all vit d products if your facts are true is the vit d council a fraud–thank you shane glenn parnham dir of research for international health had you on my radio show a couple of years ago thanksfor all your research
Tim 8:01 pm on May 10, 2010
Hey Shane,
What about lanolin derived from wool for vitamin D3 supplement pills? I’ve been taking Vital Choice D3 for a bit and that is where they get the D3 for their gelcaps. http://www.vitalchoice.com. Thanks for giving us the truth and destroying the lies!
Lisa 8:55 pm on May 10, 2010
Since you say that Vitamin D is bad but Cod Liver Oil – which contains Vitamin D – is good, could you be more specific? Are you referring specifically to cholecalciferol? It would help if you told people what to look for on labels.
It also would be very helpful if you would link to your sources.
Thanks.
James 4:28 am on May 12, 2010
If you live in the north (Michigan), we have whole months that go by with little if any sunshine and cold temperatures down in the teens. If Vitamin D is not good and sunshine is difficult to get, what do we do?
SBNaturally 9:40 am on May 12, 2010
While I respect Shane’s opinion and the work he has done, I disagree with it. Here are my point of disagreements:
The key here is moderation – Too much of anything is a problem…too much water can lead to a condition known as water intoxication and to a related problem resulting from the dilution of sodium in the body, hyponatremia.
Also if you eat the same food over, you develop a allergy or insensitivity. That why we need to rotate and each many different food.
The article makes no distinction between natural vitamin D (D3) from food – fish oil, cod liver oil, etc. and synthetic vitamin D(D2). I’m sure you’ll have more problems taking synthetic vitamins instead of natural whole food vitamins.
But best thing to undestand when and where you can get sun vitamin D (i.e. only with uv-B light on clear midday, spring to fall in northern hemisphere) and to get a vitamin D test to see what your vitamin D level is if you think you are deficient and calculate what dosage to take to raise it to an optimal level.
But yes Shane does bring up a point that everything is hyped and people just read the newspaper or go to Costco and just get vitamins feeling the need to cover all their base.
Chuck 10:08 pm on May 12, 2010
So glad to see this important article. I think I’m going to stop drinking regular vitamin D milk after reading it.
For those who can’t get adequate sunshine, you can go to http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp to get a list of foods that contain vitamin D. Beware though, the cod liver oil that’s at the top of the list is fortified with synthetic A and D. It shows 1,360 IU per serving, or 340 percent of daily value. In other words, if you are taking the usual brands of cod liver oil, you are severely overdosing on synthetic vitamin D.
Also, disregard any fortified foods such as milk, juices, yogurt, breads and cereals that are on the government fact sheet list. They all contain toxic-D.
The problem with cod liver oil is that it’s distilled, which removes much of the natural vitamins A and D. Nordic Naturals however, uses a proprietary distillation process that doesn’t remove as much vitamins A and D as others.
The way to tell if the cod liver oil contains natural vitamins A or D is the “range” of content on the label which reflects the time of the year that the Cod are caught. For example Nordic Naturals cod liver oil softgels has 300-900 IU of vitamin A, and 1-12 IU of vitamin D.
This is not much vitamin D but there is scientific evidence showing that we don’t need as much of the natural food based vitamin D due to the fact that the human body treats it as a “friendly”. It is more bioavailable and contains the co-hormones that Shane mentions. Government Daily value was established using synthetics as the standard.
Both D2 (derived from irradiated yeast) and D3 (derived from irradiated sheep’s wool) are toxic synthetics. Fake vitamin D is found in sprays, pills, fortified foods and many other forms promoted by learned ignoramuses posing as health authorities.
Skin produces D3 but it is is different than the synthetic form made in Big Pharma labs. Basically, if you see D2 or D3 on a label, you are seeing fake D.
The confusing thing about synthetics like vitamin D, are that their “vitamin like” activities that Shane mentions, are interpreted as being the same as the action of the natural food based version. For example, synthetic D raises serum levels of 25 hydroxyvitamin D, showing evidence that the synthetic is providing a portion of daily value intake.
Synthetic D has also been shown to prevent rickets. So synthetics show some evidence of beneficial action. What is not noted is that they take more than they give by damaging the heart and the kidneys, and by causing cancer.
And really critical to note as Ellison mentions in the article, is that 25 hydroxyvitamin D level measured in the blood does not reflect the amount of synthetic vitamin D that is bioaccumulating in body tissues.
The mantra of the pharmaceutical industry is; “trace amounts” of this and that toxin are present, not enough to harm people. They don’t mention bioaccumulation, and that fat in the human body stores all the toxins that the body can’t get rid of via urine, breath, defecation, sweat, etc.
Shane has sounded the alarm on global vitamin D poisoning, and not a moment too soon. I hope his article gets picked up by Reuter’s Health, or AP.
Garrett Smith 9:40 am on May 20, 2010
The fact that you fail to cite references AND distinguish between D2 and D3 (and which form is related to the supposed problems you mention), means that either you don’t understand proper vitamin D physiology and/or you are engaged in fearmongering for your own benefit. You didn’t provide even a single link for people to check your references, yet people in the your comments section find it simple enough to.
Sun is best. There is no argument there. You have a lot of backpedaling to do in terms of distinguishing between D2 and D3 though.
Anita 5:23 am on June 25, 2010
Thanks to Chucks comments on May 12th I now have a starting point in my search for a good natural Vit D source. I had noticed the bone crushing weariness building up while I was on D3 (Dr. prescribed, by-the way)and stopped taking it nealy a month ago. No I need to know how long it will take for the phony Vit D to leave my fat cells…and is there a way to enhance that happening (yes, I’m very overweight and have metabolic syndrome). I need all of the help I can get please….
Gary 11:54 pm on June 28, 2010
I am right with you on the Vitamin D scam and when I see other naturopaths prescribing it my skin crawls.
I had a look at the comments on your youtube bit and they are a worry. Sorry to insult your country Shane, but from outside the US it looks like the average Amerikan has degenerated into a low minded, foul mouthed uneducated idiot who thinks if he/she uses enough foul and insulting language, they emphasise the point. The only point they are getting across is that they are taking up space that could be used by a decent human being. Soon you will have a massive number of unemployed robbing and looting to survive because they are incapable of intelligence that could keep them alive without resorting to that. Thank the system for that. The elite know that the masses will self annihilate and cull themselves. Might be time to look at Ecuador.
All the best
Gary Powell
Chuck 10:20 pm on July 6, 2010
Anita,
Just stopping the intake of fake vitamin D will likely help to alleviate your weariness.
The only way I know of to quickly remove any toxins stored in fat tissues is to do a sweat sauna detox using a dry sauna. This process was used by 911 rescue workers to remove lethal toxins from their bodies.
It involves cardio, a lot of sweating, showers, more of same, and supplementation. Takes around one to two months. This may not seem to be quick but compared to the years it can take to purge toxins, it’s pretty quick.
Outside of that, the $1.41 cleanse recommended by Shane is probably the best thing you can do to remove bioaccumulations of fake D. You can find it on this website or Google $1.41 cleanse.
Sara 10:36 am on July 11, 2010
Hello,
You mention that getting sun is good for the body. I work for a skin care company and I am constantly taught that we should use sun screen. You definitely addressed my concern about wrinkles and aging in your book, but what about age or dark spots? I am afraid and have been taught that I will get more brown spots and freckles if I am in the sun. I am very fair skinned and already have many moles and freckles and do not want more. Is this true? If not why do I get these spots? And, you suggest not using sun screen. If it’s organic is it ok? I burn easily.
Also, I have red dots the size of a pen tip all over my body, they seem to be spreading. I notice I get more as I age. I have looked through the Internet and can not find a suitable answer as to what they are. I have heard it’s from something called petechiae but when I research it, it says there’s no cure and they will get worse as I age. This is strange to me. Do you have a recommendation for this?
I appreciate your book and the fact that it guides people towards natural cures. I will hopefully received a response to my questions.
Thank you.
Emre 8:39 am on July 16, 2010
Hi Shane,
Thanks for the valuable information.
You have mentioned about stored D3 in fat tissues. Is it possible to share a research report etc about it?
Even I live in a very sunny area, my blood test showed insufficent d3 (12mg/ml), lower then winter. So I guess I need 5000ui or above per day, until I fix the root cause.
I have heard that cod live also has high value Vitamin A. If cod liver oil has 1000I, and if I take 5 times to meet the 5000ui, I may risk my healt vith over dose Vitamin A.
What is your oppinion? or suggestion.
Regards
Emre.
Sonii 10:33 am on July 21, 2010
I have taken and given my children cod liver oil for years and they have been very healthy individuals. I became concerned though, when my husband has his Vit D level tested and was below range. He had taken Carlson’s CLO for years and worked outside in the sun. We started supplementing with Vit D capsules to get his levels up and it took a year at 5000 IU a day. I was recently told that the Vit A in CLO blocks the absorption of the Vit D. Now I am very confused to say the least but saw a big difference in my eyesight when I stopped taking the Carlson’s CLO for over couple of months. I started again and now my eyes are better. I am 47 and don’t wear glasses or contacts and have never had any surgery. I also spend a lot of time gardening, wear a hat, men’s t shirt and no sunscreen,except a bit of natural on my face. I am also very fair and burn easily. I think I get more sun than most people on my arms and legs daily and live in TX. I will stop taking vit D capsules but am wondering about the Carlon’s CLO which is bottled in Norway without the use of chemicals. Can vit D blood tests be trusted to be accurate? I can say our allergies are gone with higher Vit D levels.
Ramona 7:17 am on July 22, 2010
I’m so confused. I don’t know what to do, I just started taking D3 8000 a day! and Carlson’s CLO. Please answer some of these questions that these people are asking so I can know what to do.
Emre 6:02 am on July 23, 2010
Hi,
I found this reserach about 25 OH D3.
http://www.grassrootshealth.net/media/download/disease_incidence_prev_chart_101608.pdf
It indicates breast cancer is reduced 30% when serum level is 34mg/ml, and reduced over 80% when the serum level is above 50mg/ml (with reasonable extrapolation)
So it looks like higher the D3 serum level better for prevention….
Or is there a catch?
Luis Vazquez 2:19 pm on August 1, 2010
I think I was lucky enough to encounter “Over The Counter Natural Cures”. I finished reading it recently. I stopped having my Levothyrowine, Pravastin, Enalapril, etc. and started many of your recommended Supplements. I will see my doctor in one week, and will inform him. After a few days I am feeling much better. By the way, early AM I’m looking for the sun that we, all Floridians enjoy and left behind Vit. D. I will keep you posted. Thanks.
Luis Vazquez, Miami, FL.
cking 12:19 pm on August 5, 2010
The dislike for vitamin D supplementation and 25-D deficiency reminds of a protocol I read about while searching for vitamin D. It is called the marshall protocol, do you have an opinion about its claims on vitamin d deficiency and chronic illness?
ted 1:09 pm on August 5, 2010
are there article footnotes that you can provide?
Victoria 9:59 am on August 25, 2010
While I appreciate the intent behind Mr. Ellison’s article/post and am very interested to learn more, it would be nice if he could come back to it and answer some of the questions/concerns those who have left them here. The first rule of online business (which this is) is to communicate with your audience – I don’t see that happening here (since May?). It’s an important topic and deserves a response. Here’s hoping it’s forthcoming.
The People's Chemist 7:13 pm on August 25, 2010
Love the interaction here and can tell people are really starting to think! Keep it up. Always more to come.
Dr. Alan Hakes 1:25 am on September 16, 2010
Dear Shane: Thanks for the posting of this article of synthetic Vit D.
I too, (like Victoria posted immediately above) would like to see you respond to some of these very important questions.
If you are calling Synthetic Vitamin D “rat poison” (in essence), we need your responding to your commentors—or folks just won’t continue to respond. So….please share your investigative prowess with the questions asked of you. Thanks for your keen movement to inform the un-informed.
Goretta M. Duncan 2:08 pm on October 6, 2010
Dear Shane,
Thank you for the valuable info. and that you never waste my time. I enjoy the videos, even better than reading the info., and I can’t wait to buy your book. You do have a hard copy book for sale…don’t you?
Goretta
P.S. the black script is much easier to read in your emails, rather than the purple.
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The People's Chemist 3:04 pm on November 10, 2010
Great questions here. And everyone pushed so hard, I’ve got a new article on this subject coming out! Please stay tuned…It will address many concerns and even name names.
John 10:16 pm on November 16, 2010
A big question is why would Big Pharma sacrifice profits of so many drugs to sell cheap vitamin D?
It seems like Big Pharma has been suppressing the health aspects of sun exposure for 70 years.
Grant 8:57 am on December 10, 2010
Hi Shane, I cant say I agree or disagree with you as I too was on the Vit D bandwagon. Please let us know your answers to these questions so we can dig into the research, thank you
The People's Chemist 9:29 am on December 11, 2010
More answers now released. Start here then follow the links to the recent Stink Award: http://www.prweb.com/releases/The_Peoples_Chemist/Vitamin_D/prweb4847344.htm
Best,
TPC
Dr. Kurt Perkins 8:40 pm on November 17, 2011
Thanks for this video Shane. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve sent this link to patients asking about what vitamin D. I feel bad sometimes to burst their bubble because they are excited they are supplementing with vitamin D when in all reality they are ingesting the equivalent of paint chips.
The People's Chemist 9:15 pm on November 17, 2011
Your welcome Kurt. Thanks for the participation!